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Bush Ideologues versus Forward Thinking Conservatives

Re: Conservative Trio Supports Transferring Gitmo Detainees To Illinois
Sam Stein, stein@huffingtonpost.com, First Posted: 11-16-09 09:34 AM   |   Updated: 11-17-09 08:46 AM

George Bush

The 43rd President

Republicans in Congress are gearing up to fight a new White House effort to relocate detainees at Guantanamo Bay to a prison facility in Illinois. But on Sunday, a group of highly respected conservative figures lent their support to the transfer, calling it necessary to “preserve national security” while simultaneously avoiding “sweeping and radical departures from an American constitutional tradition.”

In a joint statement prepared by the Constitution Project, David Keene, founder of American Conservative Union, Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, and former representative and presidential candidate Bob Barr say moving suspected terrorists to the Thomson, Illinois prison facility, “makes good sense.” Taxpayers, they note, have already invested $145 million in the facility, which has been “little used.” And the surrounding community, they add, could benefit from increased employment once the prison becomes filled.

“The scaremongering about these issues should stop,” they add, noting that there is “absolutely no reason to fear that prisoners will escape or be released into their communities.”

Here is part of the letter that these three (Keene, Norquist, and Barr) released to the press:

Civilian federal courts are the proper forum for terrorism cases. Civilian prisons are the safe, cost effective and appropriate venue to hold persons convicted in federal courts. Over the last two decades, federal courts constituted under Article III of the U.S. Constitution have proven capable of trying a wide array of terrorism cases, without sacrificing either national security or fair trial standards.

George W. Bush’s policies are at issue here, not the terrorists’ trials.

Bush tried to undue rational thought and create a separate reality by spinning his actions as legal and right. Using patriotism as a shield and fear as a weapon, Bush pushed through a Republican-dominated Congress the Military Commissions Act of 2006, President’s Surveillance Program, the enhanced interrogation techniques, and the Bush Doctrine. With a covey of lawyers behind him, Bush proclaimed that the detainees were taken from the “battlefield”, wherever that was. Because of that, they must be treated as unlawful enemy combatants who are not subject to protections under the constitution. The Bush administration  began looking around for a place to put these detainees away from watchful eyes and their gaze landed on Guantanamo Bay – perfectly nestled inside a communist country, out of sight and out of mind.

Creation of alternate realities, calling things true that were false, that black is white, wore thin on the American public and they voiced those feelings at the ballot box in 2006 and 2008.

Now, President Obama is testing the waters of judicial prudency by bringing detainees to New York for trial in an attempt to judge where America stands on doing what our Constitution dictates. While Obama is utilizing our judicial system which has stood strong throughout history along comes the Bush Republicans to scream and shout that following the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions is dangerous and unjust.

This from Think Progress:

The right has exploited this possible move by fear-mongering to score political points. Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) started circulating a letter among state officials telling President Obama, “If your Administration brings Al Qaeda terrorists to Illinois, our state and the Chicago Metropolitan Area will become ground zero for Jihadist terrorist plots, recruitment and radicalization.” Rep. Don Manzullo (R-IL) claimed that moving detainees to Thomson would make the city a “target for future terrorist activity.”

Be afraid! Be very afraid!

In an interview with Neil Cavuto of FOX Entertainment, former mayor of New York and mistake-prone presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani, who has further discredited himself with his obsession with “9/11”, has come out with more Bush politics. “I think this is a very dangerous decision, and an irresponsible one,” he told Cavuto emphasizing that we should fear this decision. He went on to say, “And finally, this was an act of war. And one of the things I thought we learned from September 11th was that we were in a state of denial before Sept. 11.” It took him only a few seconds to remind everyone about Bush’s stance on 9/11 one more weary time.

So, now a much respected GOP operative and right-wing talking point coordinator, Grover Norquist speaks out against the Republicans who are gearing up for a fight over Obama’s decision to bring the detainees to the mainland. It appears as though he is speaking out against the very policies of GW Bush; denying due process is necessary for freedom, somehow. The letter he signed stated that, “Civilian federal courts are the proper forum for terrorism cases.”

But why?

On the surface it seems that Norquist has gone over to the other side saying that the “scaremongering” must stop.  But on closer examination I am convinced that there is a political reason behind Norquist’s actions and I am also convinced it has everything to do with the 2012 Presidential Election.

It appears that Norquist, Keene, and Barr are willing to try to turn Republicans away from ideology and back to the appearance of practicality by aiming their letter directly at those Republicans in congress who are willing to spread more hate and fear, reminiscent of Bush. If the GOP is to rebuild and turn their recent huge losses into wins, Norquist implies that a more moderate tone would lure independents away from the left.

In an interview published in CQ Politics and posted at MSNBC yesterday, Norquist said that prospective presidential candidates should do something for the party NOW, instead of bloviating in front of the cameras just to toot their own horn. Norquist said:

“We’re going to put together a list of all the people thinking of running for president and … give assignments to each of the would-be presidential candidates. For instance, if the former governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee would like to run and be thought of as a serious candidate he better win that Senate seat in Arkansas (held by Democrat Blanche Lincoln). He can raise the money for it, he can help turn it around. If he’s not willing to do that for the party, why should we spend any time thinking about him?” Norquist said in a Nov. 13 interview.

If former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani “wants to run (in 2012), then he should either run for governor himself (in 2010) or find somebody,” he added.

Who is he not mentioning? Sarah Palin comes to mind.

But Norquist also had an equally strong message for conservative activists — warning that they should not look to enforce ideological purity tests on candidates but rather support the most “Reaganite” person who has a legitimate chance of winning the race…

…Norquist pointed to the results of the recent special election in New York’s 23rd District, where Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman forced Republican Dede Scozzafava out of the race after conservatives hammered her record. Despite heavy spending on the race by outside parties, Hoffman ultimately lost the election to Democrat Bill Owens — the first time the district has been represented by a Democrat in more than a century.

Just to set the record straight, Hoffman did not force Scozzafava from the race – Dick Armey, Sarah Palin, FOX Entertainment, and a host of tea-baggers did. Hoffman lost because he was an idiot who was uninterested in local issues, not for being a tea-bagger. Running a local campaign on national issues, and clueless about local issues when asked, won’t win many hearts and minds in the district.

Norquist is telling us something very important here. He is saying that the GOP will be better served by not looking to “purify” the party and that the GOP needs a candidate who can appeal to the middle, like Reagan. In other words, the more the Republicans shift to the right-wing fringe, the smaller and more geographical they become, and he is right.

2006 and 2008 was a mass movement away from Bush’s alternate reality and toward a more truthful, practical governance. Norquist is telling the GOP to not continue to wander in fantasy land, but rather embrace what’s practical and legitimate to grow and move the GOP forward. This would be a refreshing change.

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Global Warming Deniers and Truth Haters

Re: Gore speech: Former Vice President Al Gore heckled during climate speech in Boca Raton — South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com By Sofia Santana, Sun Sentinel, 8:53 p.m. EST, November 14, 2009 svsantana@SunSentinel.com

BOCA RATON – Former Vice President Al Gore‘s global-warming speech Saturday night at Mizner Park drew about a thousand attendees, as well as more than 200 loud protesters.

Stationed outside the Mizner Park Amphitheater, the protesters jeered at Gore as he took the podium and at those walking into the open-air venue to listen to the speech.

“This is the most dangerous crisis we’ve ever faced,” Gore said of climate change. He spoke over a chorus of boos from protesters, who were monitored by at least a dozen uniformed city police officers.

Many of the protesters were with the groups Collegians for a Constructive Tomorrow and South Florida Tea Party, the latter of which feels that Gore’s views will eventually lead to increased taxes and flawed business legislation.

The protesters carried drums, bullhorns and posters. One read “Practice what you preach,” accusing Gore of not living a green lifestyle. Another poster read “The masses follow the asses,” depicting the protesters’ opinion that Gore’s message is not backed by scientific evidence.

Gore, meanwhile, in his presentation laid out data that he said was compiled by the world’s leading scientists and supports the theory of global warming. The speech carried much of the same content and rhythm as Gore’s Oscar-winning 2006 documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, which turned him into a leading international voice on the issue of climate change.

Gore’s latest book on the subject, titled Our Choice, was published earlier this month.

Three things:

1. Al Gore is not a scientist.

2. Before you complain about Al Gore’s carbon emissions, clean up your own.

3. Global warming is happening now.

I read an interesting article this morning while enjoying my copy of National Geographic. So when I heard about the heckling of Al Gore’s speech in Boca Raton, I knew I had to comment. This is from this month’s National Geographic’s Big Idea section by Robert Kunzig called The Carbon Bathtub.

It’s simple, really: As long as we pour CO² into the atmosphere faster than nature drains it out, the planet warms. And that extra carbon takes a long time to drain out of the tub.  

Carbon Bath

The Carbon Bathtub

 It is too simple. We are pouring more carbon into the atmosphere that can be handled by the planet. The diagram explains that the CO2 levels haven’t been this high for at least 800,000 years.

There is one thing that is relevant that I have to point out about the article above which I have copied in it’s entirety. The author distances herself from global warming and the science behind Gore’s statements by saying that “Gore laid out data that he said was compiled” by leading scientists, not simply “data that was compiled by scientists”. She referred to global warming as “theory” and Gore’s scientific facts as supporting that “theory”. The author is clearly a global warming denier and she is on the side of the disbelieving hecklers.

Why can’t people accept science? I don’t understand it. The world should be united in this effort, yet there are those who profit from pollution and spend tons of money to gather to themselves anyone and everyone who can be convinced through spin that there is another side to the science.

You can hoot at Gore all you want, just remember, your consumption of fossil fuels is killing us all.

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A Jaw Dropping Revelation From a Fellow Democrat

Re:  Time for Men to Make a Sacrifice | CommonDreams.org
by Katha Pollitt, Published on Saturday, November 14, 2009 by The Nation

You know what I don’t want to hear right now about the Stupak-Pitts amendment banning abortion coverage from federally subsidized health insurance policies? That it’s the price of reform, and pro-choice women should shut up and take one for the team.

Bart Stupak (D?-MI)

I was conversing with a person who’s opinion I respect, last Sunday, about the Stupak Amendment and as I listened I could have been knocked down with a feather by what this person told me. The person with whom I was speaking had always been a progressive Democrat,  and friends tell me, even before I met the person. (Since the name and even pronoun of the person aren’t allowed in my retelling, this will be difficult. I do not have the person’s permission to discuss the private conversation in this venue.)

As I have stated, I voiced my concern that the Stupak amendment was just one more chip off of Roe v. Wade only this time it was a big chip, not to mention it amounts to another right-wing attack in their war on the poor. This person related to me that the loss of coverage of the abortion procedure was something that he/she could live with as long as it was necessary to pass health care reform.

This person could live with it. Well, I find that lump hard to swallow.

I just sat there with my mouth agape, lost for words for once. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing from this person who I had thought was totally pro-choice. A million things raced through my head, and above all that clamor, I struggled for words to express my severe disappointment that one, it was a Democrat that pushed for the new restriction on women’s reproductive rights, and two, it was absolutely not necessary to include this right-wing anti-choice amendment in order to pass the bill since there was already laws that restrict the use of federal funds to subsidize pregnancy termination procedures. Even if a woman purchases a policy through the new exchange with her own money, termination procedures will not be covered. This is the biggest restriction on access to termination in a generation, even the Republican National Committee’s health policy covers this medical procedure.

This statement from Reps. Louise M. Slaughter (D-N.Y.) and Diana DeGette (D-Col.), co-chairs of the Congressional Pro-Choice Caucus states how I feel very well:

“Placing onerous new restrictions on a woman’s right to choose sets a terrible precedent and marks a significant step backwards. This effort will effectively ban abortion coverage in all plans, both private and public – marking a significant scaling back of the options offered under existing laws. Such a terrible, last minute amendment to a critical, historic piece of legislation is a shame. This kind of outrageous interference in health care by the government marks a sad day in this struggle and will result in women across America losing the right to health care.”

A line should have been drawn. If the bill could not pass on it’s own merits without having to bribe conservative Democrats with another attempt to send women back to the coat hanger days, then the bill deserved not to pass at all.

(There should be no such thing as “conservative Democrats”. It is a contradiction. They should go ahead and switch parties.)

I am a man. I am also of the mind that women deserve the same reproductive choices and freedoms that men have. If the specific language of the Stupak Amendment cannot be altered to allow women access to the medical procedure to terminate an unwanted pregnancy that is covered in most private insurance policies, then it must die in committee. It is a shame that we started this conversation on health care reform without the best option, Medicare for all, on the table. Now, to bargain away Roe just to get a bill passed is a bridge too far.

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