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Girl Dies After Prayer. No Evidence of Heavenly Intervention.

Re: Weston parents convicted of letting daughter die seek new trials | wausaudailyherald.com | Wausau Daily Herald

Two Weston [WI] parents convicted of homicide for using prayer instead of conventional medicine to treat their dying daughter in 2008 will ask a judge this month for new trials.

Dale and Leilani Neumann say their trial attorneys made errors that caused jurors to be confused about the law and did not adequately present the couple’s defense at their 2009 trials, according to documents filed by their appeals attorneys.

A hearing is scheduled Monday for Leilani Neumann and Feb. 22 for Dale Neumann with Marathon County Circuit Judge Vincent Howard, who oversaw the cases.

Dale, 49, and Leilani, 42, were found guilty of second-degree reckless homicide after they were accused of failing to seek proper medical care for their 11-year-old daughter, Madeline Kara Neumann, who died March 23, 2008, from complications of undiagnosed diabetes.

(Snark alert!) Considering the time it takes for the appeal process, and considering the judge was kind enough to let these guys go free after murdering their child out of pure superstition, one may conclude that the Neumanns have enough time to get pregnant again and it is entirely possible to have a replacement child in the meantime. Hopefully it will be diabetes free!

Since it was “god’s will” the child died, they get cut a break. I mean, it seems like it won’t be long before “the bible” will legally justify stuff like murder and armed insurrection just like back in the crusades. Hey! It’s the 11th century all over again!

Of course, death/murder/war in the name of some god is nothing new.

People who claim that prayer can cure disease are nothing more than snake-oil-selling charlatans. That’s why the 11 year old daughter died. If prayer can cure disease, then there should be no disease. There is no evidence that prayer can do that. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary. People who heal after being prayed over either one, they didn’t really have the sickness in the first place, or two, they had a chance of getting well on their own. They prayed and prayed and…crickets.

So, if you’re the Neumanns and you think prayer is sufficient treatment, you would have scratch your head and wonder why the daughter isn’t healthy today. The girl was prayed over and then lapsed into a diabetic coma and died – which is what will undoubtedly happen without emergency medical attention.

Whether or not these people win their appeal on the grounds they have, this case provides irrefutable empirical proof that a god does not exist. The Neumanns themselves proved it through prayer.

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Huck Going To Sarah’s Crazy, Surreal, Make-Stuff-Up Turf

Re: Huck Going To Sarah’s Turf, Howard Fineman, fineman@huffingtonpost.com | HuffPost Reporting

WASHINGTON — Move over Sarah Palin, the mythic land of Alaska is getting some attention from another would-be Republican contender…

…He’s starring in a weeklong “Christian-based” cruise along the Alaskan coast this summer…

Mike Huckabee

…”It took more time than I thought to work out all the details,” gospel-music promoter Frank Arnold wrote in announcing the trip, “but it definitely worth the wait.” “Not only is there an incredible lineup of Christian artists,” he said, “but our guest host for the entire cruise” is Huckabee.

Explaining the rationale for his “Paradise Tours and Travel” company, Arnold wrote:

“It’s no secret that The Church is getting attacked on a daily basis by the Secular Progressive Movement. And as Christians, we know that it has to happen for prophesy to be fulfilled. At Paradise Tours and Travel, our passion is to educate and empower God’s army against the onslaught of the Enemy.”

Huckabee announced the trip late Thursday night in a tweet to his Twitter followers. Calls and emails to Huckabee’s office and to his aides in Little Rock were not immediately returned.

So, the reason for Huck’s trip is to straighten out all us secular progressives who attack the church on a daily basis. I really don’t think it is the church that gets attacked on a daily basis, but people like Huck and this zealous crazy organizer. Since when is stuff like this trip responsible for the prophesies to come true? This kind of garbage vomited out of the mouth of a dumb-ass nobody, and then gets treated like a viable notion by the press, is what makes me want to pull out what little hair I have left.

Why can’t this nice cruise be about something positive, like brotherhood for instance, instead of being anti-left like the promoter advertised? Why is there always someone to blame? This bogey-man mentality is just another reason why I cannot fathom the existence of a god(s).

To this guy Arnold there can never be enough demons out there (in this case secular progressives) to sufficiently scare the christians into tithing more. Stay on your knees, folks! And by the way, keep the donations coming!

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Want Some Real Relief?

Re: Rev. James Martin, S.J.: How To Find God: The Path of Belief, Rev. James Martin, S.J., Catholic priest and author, The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything

How do I find God?

That question marks the starting point for all seekers. But, surprisingly, many books on spirituality often downplay or ignore them. Some writers assume you already believe in God, that you have already found God or that God is already part of your life. But it is somewhat ridiculous not to address those questions when it comes to the spiritual life. It would be like writing a book about swimming without first talking about how to float…

(snip)…None of these six paths is free from dangers…

(snip)…There is a more subtle danger for this group…

Of course. There seems to be an everlasting and all-consuming fear with finding a god(s). ( I add the “s” because this pertains to my pagan friends as well.) Faith has to be as hard and guilt ridden as possible or it won’t work. Nothing you can do is right, therefore you are always on your knees praying. There is no time in your life where you are innocent; guilt keeps you going back to church. There is no thought in your brain that is pure and without “sin”. The tiny smidge of telepathic prowess that we might enjoy is also corrupt.

Ridiculous!

How do I find god? To say that a god is hateful, mean, or spiteful would be an admission that one exists – and it does not. So, I find god(s) nonexistent. Life is much more pleasant this way.

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