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April, 2010:

Another Self-Proclaimed Expert on The Problem with Atheists

Re: John Thatamanil: Beyond the Theism/Atheism Divide: A Plea for Humility

Too many atheists display the same aggression and smug self-satisfaction that they detest in their fundamentalist rivals. The tragedy is that the crossfire between these groups prevents robust alliances between modest liberal religious communities and humble non-dogmatic atheists on matters of real urgency.

What binds many atheists together is an unshakable conviction that they know everything there is to know about religion, namely that it is irrational bondage to immutable doctrine. No amount of counterevidence can convince such atheists otherwise. What irony! But where do they come by this knowledge about religion? Their expertise seems to be derived by virtue of sheer sentience alone.

The author is saying that atheists have no platform unless they have two or three degrees in theological studies. If the atheist has never studied this or that, then he has no legs. The author is an arrogant buffoon who cannot accept that non-intellectuals like myself are entitled to an opinion.

But most atheists are ill equipped to abide by this rule because they know nothing about Paul Tillich, Karl Barth, medieval women mystics like Julian of Norwich or major thinkers from other traditions like Śaṅkara or Nāgārjuna. Absent such knowledge, caricature becomes inevitable.

Here, the author attempts to set a straw-man argument by inventing a bogeyman hard-line, stubborn, ignorant atheist who is unable to read or to listen to any other opinion:

What binds many atheists together is an unshakable conviction that they know everything there is to know about religion, namely that it is irrational bondage to immutable doctrine. No amount of counterevidence can convince such atheists otherwise.

The rest of the column presents evidence to support this straw-man fight, and of course, the ever present solution to the invented argument, which is the anticlimactic and lame “open-mindedness”.

The author says there is no amount of counterevidence to convince such atheist that religion is irrational. The truth is, no one has offered any evidence at all to prove that it is not “irrational bondage to immutable doctrine”, outside of blind faith.

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What is Wrong with a Prayer Day?

Re: On Faith Panelists Blog: National Day of Reason – Herb Silverman, Herb Silverman, President, Secular Coalition for America, “On Faith” The Washington PostMilitary Association of Atheists and Freethinkers

National Day of Reason

Q: Did the Pentagon do the right thing by disinviting evangelist Franklin Graham from a National Day of Prayer event next week? Should government officials decide who can or cannot speak at such an event? Should the government proclaim a National Day of Prayer? Was a federal judge right to rule it unconstitutional?

It’s a sad day when I come closer to supporting Franklin Graham than Col. Thomas Collins, spokesman for the U.S. Army. Collins said Graham was disinvited from a National Day of Prayer event because of his criticism of Islam. Collins wants official military policy to be an appreciation of all faiths. This is a call for hypocrisy on the part of most religious leaders.

What Herb Silverman is saying is that all religions have disdain for one another, so why is it surprising to hear Franklin Graham diss Islam? Then Silverman goes on to say that there shouldn’t be a national day of prayer sponsored by the government in the first place.

I agree with Collins that Graham should not speak at a National Day of Prayer event. Nor should I or anyone else, because a secular country like the United States should not have a National Day of Prayer. Individuals may pray, but government officials should not lead or sponsor prayer.

I don’t think the government officials are going to lead the prayer, that is why these religious figures are invited to the Pentagon. But is it wrong for the the government to sponsor a national day of prayer, or have a call to prayer, in the first place? Is is not inclusive of all religions?

On April 16, a federal judge ruled in a lawsuit over the separation clause and filed by the Freedom From Religion Foundation in 2008 that the national day of prayer is unconstitutional sighting what she believes is a national call for religious action, which would establish a religion.

U.S. District Judge Barbara Crabb wrote that the government can no more enact laws supporting a day of prayer than it can encourage citizens to fast during Ramadan, attend a synagogue or practice magic.

Let me just say here that the government has enacted laws that are much more bizarre and prejudicial than a day of prayer. Remember Terri Schavio? Judge Crabb went on to explain in her writing that, “In fact, it is because the nature of prayer is so personal and can have such a powerful effect on a community that the government may not use its authority to try to influence an individual’s decision whether and when to pray.” First of all, prayer has no impact on anything except giving a warm fuzzy to the person praying. Secondly, I hope that most folks have enough sense to pray or not pray whenever they want to.

Anyway, the judge also said that her ruling didn’t amount to a bar to a prayer day until all appeals were exhausted. In other words, even though she ruled it unconstitutional, go ahead and have it, nevertheless.

I’m going back to Herb Silverman’s basic premise that there should not be a national day of prayer in the first place. He proposes a national day of reason instead without explaining what that would involve. For the life of me, I cannot picture a family sitting around a table on this day having a skull session on hope and change. Silverman also said himself that it may be naive and he is right.

But, Silverman is wrong about the prayer day. He says that religions are divisive and there is no such thing as a prayer that’s inclusive for all. Maybe he misses the point. Maybe he doesn’t give the feds credit for having half a brain. They know that a christian prayer won’t satisfy a muslim, or our jewish friends. That is why leaders of varied faiths are invited to lead the prayers. They should go ahead and have it. Prayer comforts millions of Americans and there is really no harm in it, albeit useless.

Silverman also points out that this event doesn’t support, or is not inclusive of, the atheist soldier.

The Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (yes, there are many atheists in foxholes) recently completed a study that shows 23.4% of members in the military profess no religious affiliation. More identify as atheists than identify as Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, or Muslims. They deserve support just as all service members do.

Here’s the truth Mr. Silverman. The atheist soldier in the foxhole has already excluded himself from the majority. He has set himself outside the main stream but holds no grudge with anyone because of it. He may also be laughing at all this after realizing that the controversy over a national day of prayer means absolutely nothing to him. These god(s) don’t exist, so how why does one religion’s prayer cause so much ire with another religion? An atheist looks at a national day of prayer as an exercise in futility. To him, it’s a tempest in a tea pot.

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Rally for Idaho Kidnapper is Prayer Spectacle

Re: Baptist Press – Silsby to face trial in Haiti; charges dropped against 9 – News with a Christian Perspective, Posted on Apr 26, 2010 | by Michael Foust

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti (BP)–A Haiti judge dropped kidnapping and criminal association charges against jailed Baptist volunteer Laura Silsby and nine others Monday but ordered Silsby to face trial on another charge, meaning she will remain in prison.

CNN reported that Judge Bernard Saint-Vil ordered Silsby to face trial on an “arranging irregular travel” charge, which carries a sentence for those convicted of six months to three years in prison.

I think that group grabbed up some kids that they assumed were orphaned without diligent inquiry. They coordinated with the Dominican Republic to shelter the kids after they had already taken them which was piss poor prior planning. The Haitians have no love for the D.R. and that fact may explain why the authorities were quick to jail these folks. They didn’t think to ask about relations between the countries first and taking Haitian kids there may have enraged the authorities. Anyway, the parents of some of the kids turn up and are quite angry that these do-gooders wanted to kidnap their kids. The religious zealots were assuming in this case and assumption is the mother of all screw-ups. So now they pray in public for the news cameras to try to make it work out the way they want.

More than 100 people — including some from the group of 10 — rallied on the steps of the Idaho state capital April 24 in support of Silsby. Much of the rally was spent in prayer for her.

“It’s just a huge blessing to be here with God’s people to remember her,” Nicole Lankford, who spent nearly three weeks in jail with Silsby, told KTVB-TV at the rally. “The church, not just here, but in America, is standing up and doing what we’re called to do in praying for her and remembering her.”

Praying is like playing a slot machine. You want the bars but with almost every pull you get the lemons, so you pull the handle again and again because there is a chance that you will get the bars, slim though it may be. When the prayers aren’t answered, which is the case almost all of the time, they have some convenient excuses for that like whatever happens is god’s will or something. When things turn out the way they prayed they would, they draw attention to that to make the case for the power of prayer.

I have no problem with people praying if it brings comfort to them. They don’t realize that there is nothing out there listening. It is sort of funny that they believe that there is a thing out there that can hear their thoughts and really gives a damn about what they are thinking. Silly superstition. To me it is a huge waste of time. But pray away if it feels good! Why not?

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